Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 115

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Episode 115 ... Adam Grimes (107:14)

  • Been in the markets for 20 years
  • Started out trading small accounts while massively over-leveraged
  • Day traded S&P 500 futures
  • Got MBA and did a lot of PhD coursework
  • Spent time on NY Mercantile Exchange
  • CIO for Waverly Advisors 
  • Has traded everything over every time frame
  • "Been around the block a few times"
  • Appeared on Chat with Traders episode 20
  • Only looks at price, no fundamentals, no political factors
  • Trading style is now very simple
  • Used to have very marked-up charts, not anymore
  • Tries to understand momentum and volatility
  • Can't compete with HFT, but:
  • There is power in human discretion, intuition
  • P&L tells you if you're learning anything over time
  • Need money and time to graduate from the "school of hard knocks"
  • Discretionary traders need to "ask the data" about their ideas
  • Spend a few hours to learn how to use Excel
  • Don't need tick data and C++
  • Easy to identify patterns in middle of chart, difficult to identify at hard right edge
  • He's a "Numbers Nerd"
  • Forward test with small trades
  • Many find their brilliant system never beats buy and hold [Indeed]
  • To pay for your time and risk, must beat buy and hold by huge margin
  • Day trading edges usually don't cover transaction costs or the bid-ask spread
  • Many successful traders don't understand why they make money
  • Was a professional musician before he started trading
  • Former composer of music
  • Quants tend to be too rigid, lack creativity (engineering backgrounds)
  • Big believer in meditation and breath work
  • Doesn't base position size on confidence or a "pretty chart pattern"
  • The market will encourage you to do the wrong thing at the wrong time
  • Grew up in a farm community, so thought he could trade ag futures (wrong)
  • He could have 12 hour conversation about any of these topics [I believe it]
  • Had no math background (a musician) but he learned later on, anyone can do it
  • Need knowledge first, then develop your skills
  • People without emotional control rush to become system traders, but:
  • Not a substitute, system trading has its own emotional pitfalls
  • Focus on just one thing for a few years at first
  • Don't be the bee who bounces from flower to flower
  • Learning curve at least several years
  • Do a lot of trades, collect a lot of data
  • Five step plan for struggling traders:
  • 1) stop the bleeding (stop trading)
  • It's true that you can't learn to trade without trading (but you know you're a loser so stop)
  • Struggling traders have no written trading plan 2) write a trading plan
  • 3) Start backtesting (yes, they're worthless but you need to find an edge)
  • 4) Start forward testing your successful backtest, but without money
  • 5) Start trading it with real money (vanishingly small size), mainly about collecting data (slippage, commissions, etc.)
  • Have to earn the right to trade size
  • Need patience and discipline, trading is a real grind, most can't do it
  • He's a fan of group trading, less likely to do "stupid shit" if it hurts everyone
  • Trading journey above takes many many months
  • Idea of 10,000 hours of practice is misguided
  • Are you up for five years of consistent losses? Can you structure your life to do this?
  • If you don't know you have an edge, you have no business trading
  • Any money you make at first is pure luck
  • Traders who are beaten up in the beginning have a better chance for success
  • Has large free trading course at his blog
  • www.adamhgrimes.com
  • Twitter: @AdamHGrimes