Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 94

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Episode 94 ... Kenny Glick (80:28)

A funny interview with a guy who must be right around my age, clearly a Gen-Xer. 

  • From Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn
  • Did stand-up comedy when 19 years old
  • Opened up for Andrew Dice Clay, the "thrill of his life"
  • Did internship at Saturday Night Live
  • Hung out with Adam Sandler, had a lot of fun
  • Answered phone with stupid voice, got fired
  • "Who fires a slave?"
  • Worked on Jon Stewart show pre-Daily Show
  • Trading is hard but stand-up is harder
  • 5th grade math teacher did stock market project, Kenny got interested
  • Guy in suit at comedy club asked him to come sell stocks on Long Island
  • Turned out to be a boiler room, Kenny had to make 300 calls a day, paid $400 a week, hated it
  • Some guys from this Long Island boiler room opened another room, sponsored Kenny for Series 7
  • Kenny went 30 days without smoking weed before Series 7 exam
  • Kenny got 93 on Series 7, expected them to hold a parade for him, they laughed at him instead
  • Boiler rooms super shady, just pure fraud
  • "Don't put any of your friends or your family into this stock."
  • Kenny breaks into the schpiel he used as a boiler room man [I'm falling off my chair laughing]
  • Built a book of 80-100 clients, which was pretty good in 18 months
  • Noticed all slot machines in Vegas made by IGT
  • Recommended IGT to all his clients, one guy wanted to buy $100K worth
  • Movie Boiler Room dead-on, completely accurate
  • Knucklehead friend Ben made $25K a month doing boiler room sales, bought a Ferrari
  • "Rebuttal Book" the key to Ben's sales, no matter what the client said, he had a comeback
  • Kenny didn't like ripping people's heads off, he was just a funny guy, enjoyed schmoozing clients
  • 1992-1993, this was pre-SOES, pre-day trading
  • 1997-1998 Kenny started SOES trading with his Bar Mitzvah money 
  • 1998 Kenny started trading stocks on his own, quit the boiler rooms
  • Dawn of the Internet, mentions Netscape, Iomega, RealNetworks, Doubleclick
  • Saw the internet stocks jumping 10% a day, incredible
  • Adaptec, the SCSI drive, all these things started flying
  • "Once I learned about options, I got in trouble"
  • Developed a gambling habit with options
  • Got in a bad situation, wandered the earth 
  • Grew a beard, wore jeans shorts, Timberlands & Grateful Dead t-shirt [he hit rock bottom]
  • 1999 -- All you had to do was buy breaks of the previous day's high
  • Made $5-$10K a day, quit by 11 AM, would go to the park, smoke weed, and play hacky sack
  • Buddies at trading firm taught Kenny to think in "If Then" statements 
  • Trading buddy "Isaac" taught him never to rush
  • "It's better to be late and right than early and wrong." [Isaac is a wise man]
  • Isaac taught him about the "dash for trash" at the end of a bull market
  • Isaac told him in February 2000, "the end is near" 
  • Mentions CMRC, Crossroads, CMGI, SDLI ... Kenny started shorting them
  • Kenny made a lot of money on the dot com crash
  • But then he bought all the dot com stocks after they dropped 90% ... and then they went to zero
  • Akamai (AKAM) the only survivor that he still holds from that era
  • 2007 he had friends at Bear Stearns, they asked Kenny if he could find them a job
  • "Why are you asking an idiot day trader for a job?"
  • Shorted Bear Stearns on the basis of this
  • Didn't do as well on the 2008 Crash as he did on the 2000 Crash
  • Tried to pick a top in QQQ in March of 2011 or 2012?, position size 50x larger than usual
  • Got crushed, dry mouth, sweaty hands ... took only half off into the close
  • Gapped up the next day, ripped higher, his loss grew even larger
  • This experience turned him into a megabull
  • "The reason I day trade is to find swing trades"
  • Kenny tries to identify "exhaustion situations"
  • Trade from one consolidation range to the next consolidation range
  • "Analysts are paid shills"
  • Analysts only upgrade or downgrade stocks at the end of a move
  • Losers take a losing day trade and turn it into a losing swing trade
  • Losers take a losing swing trade and turn it into a losing investment
  • Kenny likes to take winning day trades and turn them into winning swing trades
  • Kenny will take off 80% of his winning day trade and hold remaining 20% as a swing trade
  • If the swing trade is a winning trade, then Kenny will buy call options 
  • Kenny prefers holding options instead of large stock positions
  • Once you find something that works, just do it over and over again
  • Trading should be boring
  • "I appreciate you having me on and shooting the shit like this"
  • Don't short until you see something gap up, roll over, and go red
  • "Let the top pick itself" -- another Isaac-ism [Isaac is a wise man]
  • You're never going to pick the top, so don't go broke trying
  • If you ever say "let's see what happens," get the hell out [tears of laughter rolling down my face]
  • You hear someone say they're stuck in a stock, you think, "Really? Rip the Band-aid off!"
  • If you're in a losing trade and mutter "let's see what happens," get out!
  • "What's the worst that can happen?" Get out!
  • Kenny has a list of stocks that he has "banned," refuses to trade them
  • Don't hang around all day watching the market
  • Once you win the money, you leave 
  • You don't need to trade constantly
  • Not trading is a position
  • If you're sitting at your computer between 11:30 and 12:30 or 2:30 PM, you're sick
  • "Flat, my friends, is a position."
  • Kenny runs a private chat
  • People can come and hang out with Kenny in his trading room for a month for free
  • "I'm a Jewish fellow [but] can make an amazing ravioli"
  • Can pay a one-time membership fee to be friends with Kenny
  • The hardest part is sticking to the concepts that you know work
  • Kenny says some kind things to Aaron in parting
  • www.hitthebid.com
  • Twitter: @HitTheBidRadio

Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 139

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Episode 139 ... Bobby Cho (39:38)

  • Worked for Restricted Stock Partners which became Second Market, eventually bought by Nasdaq
  • Traded illiquid assets for these firms, trying to value esoteric stuff, on desk for six years
  • Discovered Bitcoin: just another opaque, illiquid market at the end of 2013
  • Worked for itBit, Bitcoin exchange domiciled in Singapore
  • Bitcoin missing infrastructure back then
  • Must establish exchange if you want to get institutional money into Bitcoin
  • itBit got first digital currency trust company charter, New York State Department of Financial Services-regulated
  • Gemini is the second company to go the trust company charter route
  • Now he works for DRW / Cumberland Mining
  • Lion's share of volume they do is Bitcoin and Ethereum
  • Cumberland Mining desk can handle institutional-sized cryptocurrency trades that exchanges can't handle
  • First thing you have to do is read the White Paper on Bitcoin
  • Bitcoin is a 24-7, global market
  • DRW Trading has a number of verticals: trading (HFT), real estate, venture capital, cryptocurrencies
  • Curious people are attracted to cryptocurrencies
  • Don Wilson is entrepreneurial and curious
  • Cumberland Mining -- no investors, shareholders or clients -- just trade their own book
  • Cumberland Mining was started in 2014
  • Market making in Bitcoin for block transactions, exchanges can't handle that size
  • Bitcoin is a push function, once you send it, it's gone ... scary to institutional investors
  • Bitcoin price discovery is still fluid, 200+ separate exchanges worldwide
  • Custody is the major issue with Bitcoin ... where to go for it? 
  • Institutional investors get nervous about custody issues, very leery of cryptocurrencies as a result
  • Top ten cryptocurrency exchanges all domiciled in different locations with different regulatory requirements
  • Liquidity completely fragmented
  • Every exchange has a different fee structure
  • Difficult even to wire money in and out of exchanges, different fees for each exchange 
  • KYC -- Know Your Customer ... all about compliance with anti-money laundering regulations
  • People are trying to arbitrage Bitcoin among exchanges, but not much of an edge there
  • People drawn to Bitcoin at first by the price volatilily -- pure speculation
  • Core investors in Bitcoin understand the technology, the ease of use, they're believers, not speculators
  • Bobby is just a Bitcoin market maker, won't speculate on its long term outlook
  • Twitter: @robertjcho

TV Shows Watched -- Fauda

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Watched season one awhile back and have been meaning to blog about it... this is the best TV show I've seen in a *long* time ... it's from Israel and it's about an Israeli counter-terrorism unit ... old readers know I'm not a fan of War Porn or anything that glorifies the Security State, but this is really well-done drama. 

Most important of all it shows you how absurd the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is. These are people who can't tell each other apart on sight, and they speak one another's language so perfectly that they can't even hear an accent! The root of the problem here can't be competing creation myths, it has to be about resources (land, water, capital, etc.)

Anyway, it's on Netflix and I can't recommend it highly enough. Here are my selected screenshots with comments: 

New Rules

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This young Albanian! lady (born 1995) has several 100,000,000+listens songs on Spotify, but this is the only one that I liked ... it helps that I've adapted the lyrics to incorporate all my stock trading rules: ♪♫♬My trading rules, I flout 'em.♪♫♬

MY DEBUT ALBUM #DL1 IS OUT NOW!!! A massive thank you to everyone buying and streaming it 🌹🌹🌹 THANK YOU MY LOVES 🚀💖 https://wbr.ec/dualipa-album Follow me online: https://wbr.ec/website_dualipa https://wbr.ec/facebook_dualipa https://wbr.ec/twitter_dualipa https://wbr.ec/instagram_dualipa

Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 71

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Episode 71 ... Eric Scott Hunsader (61:57)

  • Started programming in 1984
  • Programming then not offered in college, so he taught himself
  • Bought a book, C Primer Plus by Stephen Prata
  • Had written an oscillator in Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet 
  • Still uses C to this day
  • Used to read the Wall Street Journal, fascinated by that world
  • Traded for two and half years, made enough to live and buy more computers
  • Developed a love for writing software
  • Would always second-guess his trading system
  • Focused on writing code and quit trading
  • Used to use floppy disc to archive data
  • Sold that data online (long before the Internet)
  • 1989, Tom Joseph's [of Advanced GET fame] company called Trading Techniques was a data customer, hired Hunsader
  • Had real-time streaming charts using Compaq computer and a cellphone modem brick
  • CQG bought Trading Techniques and Hunsader worked for them
  • Three years later the Internet came along
  • Internet Revolution was obvious to him 
  • CQG cold to Hunsader's idea of internet-based real-time streaming charting application
  • Hunsader left and did it himself, wrote Java application called Livecharts, and desktop application called Qcharts
  • Quote.com saw Hunsader's programs and gave him a bunch of stock for the software
  • Within 18 months to two years went from 0 to 10,000 customers [and I was one of them!]
  • Lycos wanted to buy Quote.com out
  • Hunsader got Lycos stock in the buyout and he sold it all out in two weeks in December 1999 [great timing]
  • Then he founded Nanex in 2000
  • Wanted to design the ideal ticker plant, originally called it "Generation Five," with API on top of it
  • 25,000 hours later he was comfortable releasing it to first customer in 2004, called NxCore feed
  • Data Transmission Network (DTN) his partner then and still is
  • No advertising for his NxCore feed
  • Customers are hedge funds, institutional investors, high frequency traders, even the exchanges themselves
  • Working with the NxCore API is a joy 
  • An experienced programmer can quickly learn to get exactly what he wants from the NxCore feed
  • Other data feed providers normalize the data, NxCore doesn't
  • Data compression, data transmission and graphical interface all the important bits
  • "Serial latency cost" 
  • NxCore collects 20 billion data points per day, a petabyte raw
  • 1000 terabytes is a petabyte
  • Data is stored in triplicate in different locations
  • ARCA first place where he noticed penny up and down step patterns, someone testing something
  • Flash Crash the big event: May 6, 2010 ... SIP got crushed that afternoon
  • SEC couldn't even assemble the data to analyze the Flash Crash
  • Nanex could replay the entire day in real-time given their archived data
  • Analyzed the Flash Crash ... went down a rabbit hole from which he still hasn't emerged
  • ZeroHedge linked to the first analysis they posted about Flash Crash, then it all exploded
  • SIP (Security Information Processor) -- consolidated feed, should be the only feed but exchanges sell direct data feeds independently [the bastards]
  • US stock market has two data feeds, one is faster than the other
  • Reg NMS (PDF) brought high frequency trading into being
  • "Electronic trading brought down costs, high frequency trading brought down ethics"
  • High frequency trading is risk-free arbitrage, only possible since the exchanges sell direct data feeds
  • Exchanges collude with HFT by selling them direct data feed, which is faster
  • HFT has a wink-nod relationship with regulators, fined from time to time, no real change happens
  • HFT would be shut down if the regulators had any ethics
  • If there were a central limit order book, HFT wouldn't exist
  • Regulators wanted competition, multiple exchanges, tie it all together with SIP
  • HFT can front-run orders on one exchange and cancel their orders on another exchange given their faster feeds
  • When you talk about spreads, do you mean the spreads narrowest in a second or widest in a second? Can go from 1% to 1 cent in the space of second
  • "Quote-stuffing" is a term Hunsader coined ... Quote-spam
  • You slow down a data feed by quote-stuffing it ... more network traffic, like a tiny DDOS
  • Retail customers all working off the SIP ... HFT ahead of them
  • All about creating latency through quote-stuffing
  • Put noise into the system in order to slow it down
  • Must maintain latency tables ... must ping and test the limits all the time
  • HFT is theft and market-rigging ... visit the Nanex office for two hours and watch them at work in real-time
  • Everyone is a victim of HFT ... a billion paper cuts
  • You see things now, you think it's a bad tick, but it's actually 1000 trades going off, pennying down and back up in a half second
  • SEC says people shouldn't use stop orders anymore
  • Any retail investor who trades at the open is eaten alive
  • The regulators are corrupt, they get wined and dined by the firms they're going to work for when they leave the regulator
  • SEC gave Hunsader a $750,000 whistleblower award
  • The exchanges are the real culprits for selling a faster data feed for huge prices to HFT
  • Larry Leibowitz (brother of comedian Jon Stewart) is CTO at the NYSE
  • Leibowitz made fun of Hunsader as a conpiracy theorist on stage
  • Bill O'Brien has also argued with Hunsader; O'Brien a smooth talker on TV but just a soundbite bullshit artist, has no facts 
  • Exchanges are SROs (self-regulated organizations) ... means they can't be sued
  • Legal immunity exchanges enjoy has really destroyed things, the root of the problem
  • You need someone knowledgeable and with integrity at the SEC, then HFT will go away
  • Sarao being singled out like that [for the Flash Crash] is terrible
  • Hunsader offered to work at SEC for free, won't create any new rules -- offer met with dead silence
  • At least 500 trades within one second, spikes down and up, no net price change -- mini Flash Crashes happen all day long
  • Suckering people with these "poke plays" [as I call them] ... retail can't take advantage of these because they don't execute at all exchanges
  • These mini Flash Crashes never happened before 2007
  • Anyone with a standing stop order is going to get killed these days
  • Tight spreads being claimed by HFT are bogus given the constant mini Flash Crashes
  • People at IEX have integrity
  • All the exchanges' income comes from selling their faster data feeds to a select few
  • www.nanex.net 
  • Twitter: @nanexllc

Tramps Like Us

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Terrible video and audio quality, but this cover of an already great song makes it that much greater. Love that outfit too. 

They might not have been known as the greatest live band on earth, but they should be remembered for the raw energy they created. A wonderful tribute to a great artist.

TV Shows Watched -- Frontier

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Another Netflix original series ... six 45-minute episodes so not too great a time commitment ... and it wasn't terrible. I'm not usually big on "period" pieces, but the fur trade / history of the Hudson's Bay Company does interest me. One episode did have a gay porn vibe with the half-naked hero hung by his bound hands and tortured ... not that I've ever seen gay porn, but that's what I've been told it's like, by a friend, a very distant friend. 

My screencaps with comments below: 

Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 62

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Episode 62 ... @chigrl (41:02) [recorded May 2016]

  • International relations major, Middle East focus
  • Sold medical supplies, "medical grade plastics," hated it, was living in Newport Beach
  • Quit job, moved to Chicago [what year was this?]
  • Knocked on every possible door
  • Begged for first job at a boiler room, later shut down by NFA
  • Nobody wanted to hire a woman
  • Making 200 calls a day trying to get Mom and Pop to part with 10 grand to trade options [laughing]
  • Her Dad was a commodities trader
  • Wanted to learn the industry from the inside out
  • Went from working as broker to working on trading floor
  • Clerked for Fed Funds trader
  • Moved to grains floor, was head of trading desk, when Fed Funds went to zero
  • Then moved to bonds floor
  • First ticket she ever wrote she wrote backwards, ended up being a 30K winner
  • Left the floor in 2012, started trading for prop firm, got funded
  • Being a prop trader forces you not to do "stupid shit" ... someone is watching you
  • She is an intraday, technical trader, but also has fundamental knowledge of oil market
  • She has a system, makes the same trade over and over again
  • Your worst enemy is your own head
  • If you have a system where you always take the trade, can take your head out of the equation 
  • Rotation levels, Fibonacci, volume profile, footprint -- these are what she uses
  • Fell in love with oil market, has traded for ten years straight
  • Doesn't trade crude during Asia hours ... too illiquid, a 50 lot can move the market
  • Crude is a "manic" market ... trades fast 
  • She's a market junkie ... 120 hour work week in front of the screens
  • After ten years of trading, you can "go with your gut" ... but not at the beginning
  • Government websites, esp. EIA, full of good information
  • Follow her Twitter stream since she tweets all the best information
  • [She has a smoker's laugh ... wonder if she smokes?]
  • Supply-demand drives the oil market, it's simple
  • Day traders trade what's in front of them, not the macro view
  • Twitter is invaluable, there are experienced traders on there, only dicks don't reply to your questions
  • Start with a mini contract
  • Have to find a system that works for you
  • Don't be afraid to lose money in the beginning
  • Successful traders don't care if you have two followers, they'll answer your questions
  • Key skill good traders have: patience, they wait for the market to come to them, they don't overtrade
  • She has a swing trading account and a day trading account, separately
  • Twitter: @chigrl