Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 94

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Episode 94 ... Kenny Glick (80:28)

A funny interview with a guy who must be right around my age, clearly a Gen-Xer. 

  • From Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn
  • Did stand-up comedy when 19 years old
  • Opened up for Andrew Dice Clay, the "thrill of his life"
  • Did internship at Saturday Night Live
  • Hung out with Adam Sandler, had a lot of fun
  • Answered phone with stupid voice, got fired
  • "Who fires a slave?"
  • Worked on Jon Stewart show pre-Daily Show
  • Trading is hard but stand-up is harder
  • 5th grade math teacher did stock market project, Kenny got interested
  • Guy in suit at comedy club asked him to come sell stocks on Long Island
  • Turned out to be a boiler room, Kenny had to make 300 calls a day, paid $400 a week, hated it
  • Some guys from this Long Island boiler room opened another room, sponsored Kenny for Series 7
  • Kenny went 30 days without smoking weed before Series 7 exam
  • Kenny got 93 on Series 7, expected them to hold a parade for him, they laughed at him instead
  • Boiler rooms super shady, just pure fraud
  • "Don't put any of your friends or your family into this stock."
  • Kenny breaks into the schpiel he used as a boiler room man [I'm falling off my chair laughing]
  • Built a book of 80-100 clients, which was pretty good in 18 months
  • Noticed all slot machines in Vegas made by IGT
  • Recommended IGT to all his clients, one guy wanted to buy $100K worth
  • Movie Boiler Room dead-on, completely accurate
  • Knucklehead friend Ben made $25K a month doing boiler room sales, bought a Ferrari
  • "Rebuttal Book" the key to Ben's sales, no matter what the client said, he had a comeback
  • Kenny didn't like ripping people's heads off, he was just a funny guy, enjoyed schmoozing clients
  • 1992-1993, this was pre-SOES, pre-day trading
  • 1997-1998 Kenny started SOES trading with his Bar Mitzvah money 
  • 1998 Kenny started trading stocks on his own, quit the boiler rooms
  • Dawn of the Internet, mentions Netscape, Iomega, RealNetworks, Doubleclick
  • Saw the internet stocks jumping 10% a day, incredible
  • Adaptec, the SCSI drive, all these things started flying
  • "Once I learned about options, I got in trouble"
  • Developed a gambling habit with options
  • Got in a bad situation, wandered the earth 
  • Grew a beard, wore jeans shorts, Timberlands & Grateful Dead t-shirt [he hit rock bottom]
  • 1999 -- All you had to do was buy breaks of the previous day's high
  • Made $5-$10K a day, quit by 11 AM, would go to the park, smoke weed, and play hacky sack
  • Buddies at trading firm taught Kenny to think in "If Then" statements 
  • Trading buddy "Isaac" taught him never to rush
  • "It's better to be late and right than early and wrong." [Isaac is a wise man]
  • Isaac taught him about the "dash for trash" at the end of a bull market
  • Isaac told him in February 2000, "the end is near" 
  • Mentions CMRC, Crossroads, CMGI, SDLI ... Kenny started shorting them
  • Kenny made a lot of money on the dot com crash
  • But then he bought all the dot com stocks after they dropped 90% ... and then they went to zero
  • Akamai (AKAM) the only survivor that he still holds from that era
  • 2007 he had friends at Bear Stearns, they asked Kenny if he could find them a job
  • "Why are you asking an idiot day trader for a job?"
  • Shorted Bear Stearns on the basis of this
  • Didn't do as well on the 2008 Crash as he did on the 2000 Crash
  • Tried to pick a top in QQQ in March of 2011 or 2012?, position size 50x larger than usual
  • Got crushed, dry mouth, sweaty hands ... took only half off into the close
  • Gapped up the next day, ripped higher, his loss grew even larger
  • This experience turned him into a megabull
  • "The reason I day trade is to find swing trades"
  • Kenny tries to identify "exhaustion situations"
  • Trade from one consolidation range to the next consolidation range
  • "Analysts are paid shills"
  • Analysts only upgrade or downgrade stocks at the end of a move
  • Losers take a losing day trade and turn it into a losing swing trade
  • Losers take a losing swing trade and turn it into a losing investment
  • Kenny likes to take winning day trades and turn them into winning swing trades
  • Kenny will take off 80% of his winning day trade and hold remaining 20% as a swing trade
  • If the swing trade is a winning trade, then Kenny will buy call options 
  • Kenny prefers holding options instead of large stock positions
  • Once you find something that works, just do it over and over again
  • Trading should be boring
  • "I appreciate you having me on and shooting the shit like this"
  • Don't short until you see something gap up, roll over, and go red
  • "Let the top pick itself" -- another Isaac-ism [Isaac is a wise man]
  • You're never going to pick the top, so don't go broke trying
  • If you ever say "let's see what happens," get the hell out [tears of laughter rolling down my face]
  • You hear someone say they're stuck in a stock, you think, "Really? Rip the Band-aid off!"
  • If you're in a losing trade and mutter "let's see what happens," get out!
  • "What's the worst that can happen?" Get out!
  • Kenny has a list of stocks that he has "banned," refuses to trade them
  • Don't hang around all day watching the market
  • Once you win the money, you leave 
  • You don't need to trade constantly
  • Not trading is a position
  • If you're sitting at your computer between 11:30 and 12:30 or 2:30 PM, you're sick
  • "Flat, my friends, is a position."
  • Kenny runs a private chat
  • People can come and hang out with Kenny in his trading room for a month for free
  • "I'm a Jewish fellow [but] can make an amazing ravioli"
  • Can pay a one-time membership fee to be friends with Kenny
  • The hardest part is sticking to the concepts that you know work
  • Kenny says some kind things to Aaron in parting
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